Rule 6: No unsubstantiated rumors - rumors or other claims/information not directly from reputable sources must have evidence to support them. (Not very nuanced, but give or take). Rule 3: Be civil, no religion or politics - remember the human, be civil and follow sitewide rules; brigading, personal attacks, mass mentioning users and the use of slurs are not allowed. I woulden worry about fan failure unless you have the board for like 8 years or more. for us PC users it's going to take a while to convince us maybe X86 will remain to be the advanced user platform. What is the VRM like on the elite vs the msi Gaming Plus? Totally true, but charging almost 700$ for a mobo (besides all the fancy features) with passive cooling it's crazy. 1st: ? Using 2 x NVM (1 PCIE 4 MP600 & ADATA PCIE 3) you can actually easily stress the chipset and as the cooling doesn't work as expected I have more then once seen temperatures of 68°C with fan running at very high speed. I get that patents help drive innovation, but imagine paying Ford to put the gas pedal on the right. There's plenty of competition for the CPU market just not in the proprietary x86 arch. I've considered this solution myself, but LLVM bytecode changes quite often, so it would have to be something else. There wouldn't be much point in stressing a GPU in the CPU lane slots right? 3rd: A decent case has nothing to do with it. Software doing JIT would need to convert into LLVM bytecode and then invoke LLVM to compile it into the native ISA, but it is doable. As small fans can have pretty high pitch noise. We know the TDP has tripled compared to x470 and that they need to design for the worst use case (no airflow, constrained space). Originally, patents were supposed to protect manufacturing processes, so for example, TSMC's 7nm fabrication process, could be protected, but you shouldn't be able to patent like an instruction set, which in a way is kind of like an API for hardware. Don’t be facetious... it’s a perfectly valid concern. [–]Chronic_MediaAMD 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]hackenclawQ9650 | Radeon 7790 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Slightly nuanced would be 'ASUS/ASRock should probably add a fan stop' and 'Fan stop might push your decision if you're not entirely sure'. Thus far there really isn't anything else other than Intel, Nvidia and AMD. I'm really considering getting the elite even though I have the gaming plus. My fan never comes on, idle temps around 50-55. 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Yea. Once updated to the BIOS revision that gives PCH fan control, setting it to silent yielded the following: 0RPM until 60c.~1500rpm never really getting above 70c. ASUS Prime X570-P chipset fan noise :(Discussion in 'Motherboards' started by Stu999, 8 Jun 2020. Can you confirm that you can apply offset CPU voltage on the X570 Taichi? All of the water cooling features are taken from another build which I liked, but I’m definitely open to any suggestions you might have. In our original test pre-GB bios update we had the X570 Pro and Master at 41-42 dBA at 10cm. Test with the highest power AIB gpus which let hot air into the case and also potentially block the fan opening. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 70 points71 points72 points 1 year ago (31 children). Thanks for this, mine isn't arriving until Monday (went too fast at checkout and ended up with EggSaver that didn't even leave Newegg until Tuesday night) and this will help me sleep at night :). It's not known why they stopped, but I would guess there may have been some legal threats behind closed doors. Oh you mean like a case header? Also, unlike AMD, VIA hasn't been as visible, whereas AMD has been around at least as a budget x86 supplier for decades, so VIA has to build a whole new reputation from scratch, and convince OEMs to incorporate their products. Personally I think it's only a matter of time before ARM Replaces X86. Is it just me or this is typical for any x570 Taichi board owner where there is always a very loud/whiny fan noise coming from the SB Fan when starting up the system. Because of that the CPU can be even more efficient than a pure RISC CPU. Almost no room to do anything and beneath a hot GPU. [–]itstopsecretOP 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). lol, another gadget to think about. The chipsets are in an incredibly difficult spot on the motherboard. Nowadays a lot of business law gets decided by who has more money, it's sad but it's the current state of affairs; there are of course exceptions, but still. Anyway that is what warranty is for and if you have decent consumer laws than your bother in $ is covered by Asus as well. [–]babugz 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (5 children). VIA is actually owned by a pretty large conglomerate, but it seems they've been content to stick in embedded markets. I thought the auto fan-off feature was standard across the board[s] (pun intended). [–]squidz0rz3700X | GTX 1070 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). LLVM supports every bytecode version from 3.0 onward: Hi, would love to get some feedback on the build, I finished the pc part picker list. Next thing, VRM fans. Hell, if one of them sprung for a replaceable fan thatd be MASSIVE for them too. It tends to "stabilize" itself out after 10-15 minutes but trying to work in a quiet environment with that running is super annoying. [–]flyrobot27 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), MSI's chipset fan are the same ones they use on their GPUs, so it should be perfectly fine, [–]Chronic_MediaAMD 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Silent, Balanced and Performance modes, choose the mode that suits you the best in any situation. Epos7 said: I … Pcie 4.0 1st slot gpu lanes go straight to the CPU. I was thinking of getting the MSI carbon, but would rather save the money and get the Elite as long as future overclocking won't be an issue... [–]watlok3900x / 2070 Super 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (1 child). No more VIA etc. For the price I think the Gaming Plus looks the best. | Apr | Mar | Feb | Jan Joined Jun 22, 2008 Messages 91. Using HWinfo to monitor my max temps, I've only hit 55 C max on my chipset. If i check temps during most intensive tasks chipset is never over 52C. [–]Krt3k-OfflineR5 1600 + V64 Nitro+ | Envy x360 13'' 4700U 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child), Reliability will be the biggest concern, though MSI said that they are using dual ball bearing fans only, Asus seems to go with sleeve on all X570 except for the WS I think. its heading that way now. I had to set the fan speed to Custom and set up a curve with the duty cycle set at 0 for lower temps. If you need type-C MSI is off the table. [–]tamarockstarR7 3800 RX 5700XT 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children). All x570s have a chipset fan Fan noise does not appear to be a problem can’t hear mine over the other fans . For what it's worth I am using a PCIe 4.0 NVMe that has my Windows install on it. The current X470 chipset is still well in the running with a whopping 8 watts in the maximum, but for the X570 chipset this power consumption increases significantly for some of it. It's essentially CISC instruction --> CISC decoder --> several proprietary micro instructions --> RISC decoder, [–]BlackDE 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). I don't want to hear my pc at all. That's an insane choice. I have the latest bios on the board. For reference, ~40 dB is the sound level of a dishwasher... idk about you guys but I wouldn't want dishwasher-level noise coming from 1 tiny fan in my room while I'm gaming, [–]MrInYourFACE 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). The only thing this sound level would "quiet" for is a dishwasher. The problem is implementing this in a major OS (most likely a Linux distribution) and then getting companies shipping binary software to get on-board with it. In case you were concerned, I am no longer. Brands all use their own 'logic' to come up with a number that means damn close to anything. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children). [–]yqtyyz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Well in the past couple days this fan is running none stop at 100%. Decibels can only mean so much...when pitch and tone matter a whole lot under load. Personally I'd take the Aorus Pro I guess, but honestly you get to a point where you can let looks decide. If you believe your post should be an exception to the rules, please message the moderators before posting it. [–]return_of_the_ring 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (2 children). Also, I'm not a fan of ARM because it's also patented, although the patents are at least licensed under FRAND terms; I would've liked an open design like RISC V ideally, but I know that's even less likely. [–]SunakoDFO[] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (0 children). but we need to start planing past that .every other tech has change now but for that. I can just agree with that (as in MSI board being quiet), my Gaming Pro Carbon is very quiet. I set the fan to 0 duty cycle which stopped it fully and the system noise stayed the same while chipset temps (in HWinfo, since this tool doesn't seem to acquire the chipset temp value) started climbing so it definitely was off. The BIOS now correctly reports the proper rpm. Got a Ryzen 7 3700x, MSI RTX 2070 Super Trio X, G.Skill RipJaws V 3200MHz (16GB), 2x Nvme SSD Crucial 1TB, [–]xLuky 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children), [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), I'm sorry I should have clarified: the MSI board doesn't have an internal type-c connector for cases that have Type-C :), [–]xLuky 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). lol. Considering the minor differences in temps when stressing them, the chances of 2 SSDs in a normal use case causing more heat are slim Id say. [–]yqtyyz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). Gigabytes x570 boards come with a little noise detection sensor and it is reading 55 to 62dB on the inside of my case and that is pretty much all from the chipset fan. You may also want to use /r/AMDHelp and /r/TechSupport. kind of also. I always download fresh drivers/software whenever I do a clean installation. Machine word sizes and endianness might be a headache, but everything is basically 64-bit little endian these days, so that is not as much of a problem as one would think. Funny thing is, when we were at Computex I asked all of the vendors "Will the fan have a passive mode", all of them said no and looked at me like i was asking the impossible. [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children). Rule 2: No referral or affiliate links - referral or affiliate links are not allowed. [–]rafamundezAMD|3900x|32 GB 4000 MHz CL19|Titan RTX|x570 Gigabyte Aorus I 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (3 children). Here, too, a distinction must be made between a normal scenario for an average user and worst-case scenarios. A typical 120 mm noctua fan has a max dB of 22.6 dB. does it ramp up fan speed during load like gaming? Right now I just have a 3600 to tide me over. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. As is pretty typical when you find issues to complain about, I poked GB and they sent a beta bios that same day. Gigabyte lets you turn the fan off if the chipset is under 60C.... i set that on day one and dont think it turned on even once. The gpu doesn't stress the chipset unless you run multi-gpu depending on the board. Even on Silent, it's the loudest part of my system. So I downloaded a fresh BIOS file from the MSI MEG X570 Unify support website. Can't hear that little fan over all my other fans in the rig anyway. [–]pbkoden 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Gigabyte flaunts its fleet of X570 motherboards, including the passively cooled Aorus X570 Xtreme :OCheck out our sponsors. GB is not my favorite brand but they are in my top 3. am not saying x86 is bad. Running 3900X on AORUS Pro WiFi (not the I, but the one with 3 PCIe slots).with GTX1070 . 1) The X570 chipset has a fan - but basically all of the X570 range except the halo-tier boards have a chipset fan. Considering that almost all of the major motherboard makers are also video card AIBs, and not all major video card AIBs make motherboards, there's arguably more competition in video cards than there is in motherboards. Just to clarify: we didn't get any coil whine on any of these boards (or any in general really). [–]Cacodemon85 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Eh, I wouldn't praise the motherboard market too much. Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … But which board has the best passive cooling? So in ASUS' only damn case (Helios) you cant even connect all the USB ports on the case if you buy their high end X570 board :-/, [–]Lulumurr1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children). I am more worried by fan noise, hornestly. [–]Lulumurr1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Cynderxi7 7700k | Crossfire Vega 64 | RTX 2080ti 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child), That’s okay, I can’t hear that fan over my over volting 3800x cpu fan going nuts at idle, [–]yellowpasta_mech 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I would prefer a proper beefy heatsink if needed. Straw and Reddit polls are simple questions resulting in a yes/no answer or soliciting another ballot-type response. Buy the features you want. I'm using a single pcie 4 nvme drive, and have not had the chipset get hot enough to turn the fan on. You don't see many new companies entering the AIB market because its not very profitable compared to processor design. But still arm can outperform x86 with efficiency you can cram 4 apple a12 that require a little bit of cooling and the performance will be waaaay better but still software is the big problem so yeah X86 for advanced users. [–]jharelR7 3700X | ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 | RTX 2070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). GIGABYTE X570 motherboards based on the AMD X570 Chipset provide full support for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors. First time building a pc, picked up a 1080Ti from some I knew who upgraded, and planning on Ryzen 7 3700x, what would be the best motherboard for me to pick up in terms of performance/noise? I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to find the actual replacement for any of them. At 50 CM you'll roughly be able to take about 6 dB off those numbers. Fair point with them not investing more on their designs but I just wanted to point out that TDP is not truly indicative of the amount of heat it generates. The all-new design is a testament to GIGABYTE's dedication to design quality. I do not think anybody has tested it yet. what about the temperature when the fan is off? Same on the Asus crosshair VIII Hero WiFi. [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children), Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VI EXTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children). I've had the 1.6 UEFI since release day. Even then, it's silent. Without audio or video of the actual fan noise, this video doesnt help me at all. This is a big help! Update: A very kind member of the medical community helped me get the final piece(6800xt) of the build I am gifting to my brother. Not sure if it's 3000 series ComPatible too so check that. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (5 children). Rule 1: Tech Support - Tech Support posts are only allowed in the quarterly tech support megathread - you can find the latest linked in the sidebar or pinned on the front page. But it is worth keeping an eye on dust buildup in the future. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 27458 on r2-app-005550a1c2b16eca0 at 2020-12-20 08:56:43.636415+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: PL. [–]JoshHardware 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). I run my PCs 24/7 so the 60K hours it's rated at will happen well before I plan to stop using this MB. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Not really, since they all use the same chips from a handful of GPU companies. They were actually noticably audible and a big cause of concern for me. [–]McGryphon3950X + Vega "64" 2x16GB 3800c16 Rev. 2nd: It's much more complicated, and very much distance related. For detailed VRM discussion I think Buildzoid is a great source. all that. [–]firedrakes2990wx 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), true. 2016: Dec | Nov. and join one of thousands of communities. From wikipedia. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Didn't watch it so can't answer it clearly, but usually it's all about the VRM phases or something (pardon my ignorance) so basically you find the best 5 and check via the video what was the quietest of them. AMD Ryzen: Gain of every Zen generation on application and gaming performance, Thank you AMD for open source drivers - with their magic combined with Proton, Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux. Was she inspired by hardwarecunucks video style? Mind you, I dont think the GPC is a bad board at all, I've got it here and it looks great and the VRMs dont heat up at all. The tiny yet mighty chipset fan. I ordered this board but it hasn't come in yet, will i have issues not running the chipset fan if I'm using pcie 3.0 instead of 4.0? I just realised you said VI Extreme, which is X370, and which I really wouldn't recommend at this point no matter how 'high end' it was 2 years ago. As for why only Intel and AMD do x86, it's because of patent licensing. [–]getvexd 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (9 children). I swapped out the chipset fan on my Gigabyte X570 ITX board for a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM. Aside from that honestly I picked it on a whim at Microcenter, but it's reliably booting, which for me is an upgrade ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, [–]Chlupac 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), Good to know your CPU and GPU are much louder than mobo fan while under any workload. The problem with the x86 patents is that it becomes more complicated, because someone may argue that technically it's hardware, but then some of this stuff is implemented in microcode, which means it's not really all hardware, and this also raises the question as to why virtualization software like VMware or VirtualBox aren't infringing, but if I make microcode (which is also a type of 'software'; firmware is software after all), suddenly it's infringing? 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). People running zen 2 right now are early adopter for sure. Hopefully and can figure this out but for the moment I only lost 15 percent performance. The X570 Taichi as of the 1.60 bios will allow a zero speed on the custom curve. You can finally change LED color on the reference RX6000 series cards! These types of patents absolutely don't drive innovation, the problem is most lawmakers are completely technologically illiterate and don't understand where to draw the line on these things. I have heard that the have an 8 core running at 3ghz and aiming for 5ghz at 2020? | Jun | May I've got an Asrock X570 Steel Legend and I don't hear the fan on it at all, but it's in a Fractal Design R4 and I'm not using anything that would make the chipset get hot. If a post is made and it is not clear how it relates to AMD, an explanation in the thread will be required upon posting that details how it is relevant. AMD X570 Chipset Comparer . Is the chipset fan being right in line with where your gpu would sit an issue? It's just that switching architectures is such a massive undertaking that we really should switch to something open and future-proof if we're to do it at all... [–]KananX 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (0 children), Because they are vastly more complex to develop, it's two different worlds, [–]freddyt55555 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children). [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), When I get home I’ll link you my pc part picker build if that’s alright, I’d like to verify I’m not getting anything that’s a waste, [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). I won't hold my breath though. No idea what you're saying "no" too. I've never seen her channel before. I have to use the low power mode when just browsing else the cpu fan randomly revs up. Joined Jun 2, 2017 Messages 3,196 (2.47/day) System Specs. High Durability . Not only has it got the detailed fan blades of an MSI GPU, but its X570 boards are also including a 0dB mode too. We early buyers are taking the leap of faith. 2020: Q4 | Q3 | Q2 | Q1 Like do the mobo manufacturers really think for a second we're stupid enough to believe that active cooling is required to dissipate 15w? Everyone at the search of the most silent X570 while here I am, with an AMD stock gpu, the loudest gpu fan I've ever had so far. Very technical though. [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children). Do you have any idea? Tens of dozens of ARM/RISC-V manufacturers and growing. [–]Spoffle 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]DasStorzerAMD 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]BlackDE 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children), Yeah, but these complex instructions get split up into smaller instructions inside the cpu. Maybe you can help me out, if I give you some information about my new setup. Modern software needs newer things like SSE2,SSE3,etc. Cause then chipset really starts to heat up. In the fan curve for some reason "10%" is actually off. Show only OP | 8 Jun 2020 at 17:15 #1. hell no... we need a new one for cpu. So much competition in motherboards, yet so little competition in GPU and CPU markets. Sep 25, 2020 #49 I. Ice009 Weaksauce. I use mine with no fan until 70c, for non-gaming passive use it usually sits around 67-69 but I've seen it get to 70 as the highest. Know a solution? I was worried that my mobo will be the jet in otherwise totally quiet passive cooled HPC! I wanted to pick a Taichi up, but after hearing about the fan getting blocked by long GPUs I've been a bit worried. The board with the best passive cooling (all else being equal) would have the best chance of having the fan spin for as little as possible - at least I would assume so. Then again, so far with a couple of built X570 systems (including an NZXT H510 with a X570 Elite next to me right now) chipset temps have simply not been an issue at all.